Below are some quick references to help understand the five-fold ministry of Jesus Christ. The titles and positions may vary from church to church so the references are given for a personal study.
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. Ephesian 4:11-13
Apostle - A special messenger sent forth from God to be a special witness of the name of Jesus Christ in all the world, particularly of His divinity and of His bodily resurrection from the dead. One possessing the anointing of Jesus Christ to exercise spiritual gifts and authority to establish the foundation of the church in the earth. Scripture References: I Cor 9:1-5; Acts 1:21-22; Rom 1:5; Gal 2:8; Mk 10:2; Lk 6:13; II Cor 12:12 - Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.
Luke 6:13 - And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles.
Prophet - Minister who speaks divinely inspired revelations, foretells future events, who speaks for God by divine inspiration to restore back to order the lives of God’s people. Scripture References: Deu 18:18; Jer. 1:10; Amos 3:7-8; Jo 4:19; Lk 11:49, Mk 6:4
Deu 18:18 - I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Evangelist - Minister who goes out into the highways and hedges to compel them to come in, preaches the gospel of Jesus Christ to convert to Christianity. Scripture References: II Tim 4:2-5; Acts 21:8; III Joh 5-8
II Tim 4:2-5 - Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
Pastor and Teacher - Minister of Jesus Christ with direct senior oversight of the local congregation to provide spiritual instruction and care for believers in the church of Jesus Christ. Scripture References: Jer. 3:15; Jer 23:2, 4; Ps. 23:2, Matt 10:1; Jo 10:1, 16
Jeremiah 3:15 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.
While the office of apostle may walk in any of these gifts temporarily from time to time, these are individual offices held by several individual ministers empowered with an office or gifting by Christ. When these individual ministers and gifts come together in agreement,. they authenticate the Spirit of Christ (Mt 18:16-20; I Cor 12:12-31).
1Co 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
Christ walked in all these giftings simultaneously and served as prophet, priest and king, fulfilling the Godhead bodily (Col 2:9). When the members of the body of Christ possessing all these offices and gifts come together in the House of God, we enjoy the fullness of Christ (Eph. 1:23).
God loves everyone regardless of physical or spiritual conditions. We are all called to become a part of the body of Christ and the body of Christ is one family. We must accept Jesus Christ and His sacrifice on the cross to become part of this great family of God; and when we do, we must respond to His great love for us. Each of us is called and destined with purpose to do something. This ministry is about the call of God on my life to reveal to others what He has shown me. The expression of this call has been both verbal and written as I have spoken and written what I have heard God speak to my heart out of His word and from the Spirit. The call upon my life is a prophetic one that some may not find agreement with due to their religious teachings or church doctrine but I challenge you to read the word for yourself (Deuteronomy 18:15/Joel 2:28/Ephesian 4:11-12/I Cor 14:5) and see that God is still the same yesterday, today and forever.
Though God has always preferred to speak to us one on one, there are times when the message must come through a servant called for that purpose because of the dullness of the people's ears. Prophets are a gift to the people that will hear them because they have been schooled under the Spirit of God to speak what God sends. And this, as all messages received from God's messengers, must agree with the written Word of God to be validated as truth from God.
Any message from God has the ultimate purpose of leading the people closer to Himself. As people realize how faithful and good God is, they are drawn to His great love for them. God's message to us is that He loves us and wants to bless us with more of Himself. But when the people fall away from God, He uses this gift to speak to the people and remind them of God's great love for them and that He invites them back to His bosom. It is God, Himself, that will validate His true servant and expose the false ones at the appropriate time. So I do not take lightly the call of God on my life nor am I so presumptive as to speak my own words for God. My respect and my godly fear provides a boundary where I am happy to stay within while I seek to obey God.
All of those persons truly called of God have felt unworthy of His call as do I. But Holy Scripture tells us that the call is without repentance and God does not undo His call because of our weakness. He instead fortifies us and makes us to stand as He did Gideon (Jg 6:11). He personally grooms His servants for the call. Isaiah had his mouth purified with hot coals by an angel because he knew he had an unholy tongue. Jeremiah called from his mother’s womb offered a reason why he could not be used: he was but a child. I knew as I was reading scripture in Isaiah many years ago that God was calling me and I, while reading and hearing, wanted to duck my head because I knew the difficult lives prophets of the bible experienced. But there is no where we can go to hide from God.
The Omniscient One knows who He is calling and He knows our life from beginning to end when He calls us. We are called for a particular time or season for which we are suited and prepared. What we do before or even after is not as important as fulfilling that particular purpose for God. King Saul was called to be the first king over Israel and he fulfilled that purpose, even though his personal choices caused him to be a bad king. Samuel was dedicated to God from birth and fulfilled that call of prophet very well. And then there was Esther called to be an intercessor for her people and, though we do not know much about her life before or after that period, she fulfilled her call to save her people. She was called for just such a time.
Prophets are called for a particular time and purpose that God has preordained to suit His empowerment of that servant. There may be many things they are not but what is important is their fitness for the one purpose for which they are called. For that purpose they are anointed of God and He makes them to stand despite the odds.
In this my sixtieth year, I look back and see that I am presently without personal family, financial wealth or an established church. At this time and as a follower of the Lord, I have to ask myself, what was it all for? When I look at the experiences I have had and the places I have lived, it even boggles my own mind. But when I look at my life through my purpose, it all makes sense. It was all part of the training and part of the plan to prepare me for my purpose to be used of God. God never tolerated my dependence on anyone but Him. Many of those external things would have prevented the final results God sought in me: a sold out servant that He could use for such a time as this. I was made without the persuasion and hindrance of church indoctrination, job dependence, residential confinement, heart hardening through college education or a husband’s containment. God grabbed my heart as soon as I was born again and walked me through my past to my present. My sustaining allegiance has been to God. I learned early to turn down many seemingly lucrative offers that were temptations or hindrances to my purpose. He is the only one that has sustained me through the years, even though there were some who assisted in my life for a season, I suffered many otherwise lonely and difficult times without the external benefits many around me had. Though I like many have had my times of stubbornness after salvation, I never threw in the towel and was always, even then, aware of God’s guidance of my life. Yes, I talked to God while in my disobedience (Job 13:15). I was always sure of God regardless of who walked out of my life. I sometimes asked Him why He did not keep me from stepping into a particular trap. Sometimes He did prevent it and sometimes He did not stop me. That was part of the training. I had to learn to listen to the soft warnings of the Holy Spirit and learn what it was like to be in a mess with God alone able to deliver and welcome me back to His protecting arms. In the end, He is the only one we can depend on. I rested in the fact that I was His child and He was my Father teaching me how to walk with Him.
The dark times I went through were part of my deliverance and part of my training. What good is a teacher for God who has never experienced anything? He would not be able to identify with the people he was sent to help. But having walked through the fire you can identify with its allure and its danger. And having survived it, one is able to warn others to avoid its danger.
I have spent an equal amount of time in the world and with God. The last 30 years of my life has been spent studying God's Word and listening to His counsel. I now realize all the experience of the various jobs, changing residents and even refraining from college was God’s way of preserving His direction for my life. So many times I wanted to go to a bible college and the answer was always, “No.” I kept trying to go and would end up dropping out. I could not understand why so many great ministers went to college and God would not allow me to go, until He finally broke it down to me and settled the issue. He reinforced the message to me three ways: spiritual, natural and scriptural. After His lesson, I was fully persuaded that though it may have been for others it was not for me. To explain it as briefly as possible: If I went to bible school, God would have to undo the teaching errors that man would put in my conscience (Jo 14:26, Lk 12:12). I liked the fact that He cared enough for me to keep me from that temptation.
So my training consisted of life’s lessons, long periods studying the Scripture with the guidance of the Holy Ghost whispering in my ear all during the day over the years. I had to go where He directed, speak when He told me to speak as He revealed to me things I was to see. Often when I wanted to act or speak out He would not allow it; I was still in training. But there comes a time that we are made for when it is time to speak what He has put in us. This is such a time. This is the time I was made for and I will be sharing what I heard while walking with the Lord. God allowed me time to ask all my questions until I, in silence, had nothing else to ask. Some things I recorded while listening and others I retained as lessons.
Truly God has a great love for all people and for His church. He suffered the man, Jesus, to identify with us and be crucified to save us. He has tolerated your sin and mine until we could get to a place where we could know Him.
God has prepared people and is preparing people to take their rightful place in history to bring about His will in the earth. Those that are not called as His special messengers for such occasions need to listen in faith to escape trouble. Those with a spiritual ear should be able to hear the Spirit as I heard the Spirit through others who taught while I listened. We equally have to be discerning to make sure we are hearing from God and not man. God will personally lead each of us that want to be led. There are so many false leaders who mislead people who do not know how to discern the truth because they do not read the bible for themselves. You must read the word to be able to properly try the spirit that is speaking to you. I adjure you to do so. Believe only the word that agrees with God’s written Word. Be like the believers in Berea: "...they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so (Acts 17:11)."
After having been freed from the bondage and hindrance of past church restrictions, I am charged to speak what God says to whomever He tells me to speak. Denominations and titles have bound the mouth of many. I know you are probably thinking, “But we all have to be part of a church.” I believe it and believe this too will be resolved in God's time. I established a church some years ago, until God assured me that was not what He was calling me to at that time. We, the people - not the building, are still the church no matter where we go. (Jo 10:9) 'I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture." Remember Philip, newly called as a deacon, was sent by the Spirit to the desert to teach, preach and baptize the Eunuch (Act 8:29). We must be indoctrinated by the Word, not church rituals (Rom 12:2). The Word frees us to follow Christ (like Philip) while church indoctrination keeps us in bondage. (Jo 8:36) "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed." I do acknowledge my allegiance to the African American community because that is part of my assignment. We are first called to our own people as written in Mt 10 and Deu 18:15. But God has no favorites and will both bless and punish according to our obedience to His Word.
Much of what I am going to say, I have already said in one of my books. But I expect to be much more specific and direct in speaking to the problems we are addressing today. There is a gradual growth in my books just as my growth had to be gradual There are people much more capable than I on expounding the scriptures. They are called and trained for that assignment. My ministry is to speak the many things God allowed me to witness while walking with Him and to relay those things to the people of God. And God only allows us to come into our time of ministry after we have grown to that point of readiness. At my age, though I have the same needs and desires as anyone else of my age and gender, I have seen the futility of giving up God for any of those things. We have to be willing to forsake all, not knowing whether or not God will require it of us. And in this, the latter portion of my life, I will not deny God for temporal things. I have been thoroughly tested in many of those things and chose God.
Those that would say that there is no God and that these are just thoughts or ideas in my head, I would say, “Leave me to my thoughts and ideas that have kept me through some very difficult days and I will leave you to yours.” It is the fool that has said in his heart that there is no God (Ps 53:1). Everyone has a god of some sort. Those that say they have no god have chosen Satan by default.
I want to remind the church that it is at times like these, when both the church and the government are rejecting the truth of God’s Word that God Himself arises in His prophets before He, Himself, comes on the scene to settle the matter of sin. Those that do not choose to listen to His prophets are both judged for that and damned because they did not heed the warnings to escape the oncoming danger. I discussed the work of the prophet more thoroughly in my book, “Silencing the Voice of the Prophets”.
I discussed the dilemma that America is facing in my book, “Elephant in the Room: The Economy and Whose Job It Is To Fix It.” I mention this book not for sales but because I will not go into all those details again at this time. And I will speak very broadly about some of those issues already covered in my books and give more detail only as needed. But America is at a cross road where she must decide whether or not she will throw off God entirely. This nation has already spoken through many of its new laws and practices but God demands a final answer of which America is not far from giving. The intercession of many believers is holding off the wrath that awaits America’s refusal to keep Jehovah God as her God. It is important that people understand that some leaders having gone to extreme length in error will not turn back to truth without some pressure or coercion applied on them. True prophets speaking at this time should encourage those believers that have been silent, that now is the time to speak up. I want to share with you how God showed me a way that Satan comes in to destroy the saints.
There was a church that I observed who had a strong history of standing for the truth. The people were well taught and devoted to God. Over time, a weak pastor came in and slowly began to dissuade them from their strong stand on solid doctrine. Their devotion to the pastor and failure to stand up for what they believed caused them to weaken like water. It amazed me how quickly a strong church could deny simple truth that even spiritual babes were expected to know.
God allowed me to see this because I often wondered at how quickly Israel gave up on God. This taught me that many will give up if they do not stand up individually for convictions and keep God as the Head in their personal walk and as a group. Never let anyone cause you to lose your soul. God will sustain and help you to stand even if you are the last one standing for truth. I am sure these people would not have believed some years earlier that they would ever forsake God.
That is equally the story of America and how she will go if Christians do not stand up at this hour. Little lies and truths denied weaken people until they eventually shut up and stop fighting against adversaries. People want so much to belong and fit in until some will compromise to get that place of fellowship. We have seen our nation compromise on one principle after another. It is at this point of weakness that anyone can lead the people astray because they are afraid. This is the story of how Israel was defeated. Weak kings led them astray little by little with their idol worship until they were easily defeated by the enemy. We do not take down the truth we know because of any little known or widely known speaker or preacher. We have seen some of them fall recently (I Jn 2:4, 15). God will confirm His truth in your heart (I Jn 2:20). We are always on our guard against the lies of Satan because there is always a war going on for the soul of a believer (Mt 26:41, I Pet 5:8). We live our life every day on watch for our God and in defense against the attack of the enemy. We are to be battle ready at all times (Eph 6:11).
But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Co 15:57
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Jn 5:4
So why is it that Americans do not know that they are in a battle right now. There is a battle going on for the soul of America. Those at the forefront of the battle are politicians, actors, civil right leaders, reporters and protestors against godly morals. What ever happened to the church? In times of war, God always spoke to His people, aka, believers of God (Read Judges). Why is the church body sitting back at a time of war and allowing worldly leaders to lead the battle when they do not believe in God and cannot win? The answer is because the church is busy pursuing wealth to have a lifestyle like the actors in Hollywood. The church has been told a falsehood by leaders who have stopped following Christ and told the church that they must pursue the wealth of this world. We are to pursue God and seek His knowledge then wealth will overtake the righteous that follows the Lord (Mt 6:33). While some religious leaders are robbing the people of their wealth and getting wealthy themselves, they continue telling the people to give up their money so that the giver can get wealth through giving in the offering. This is spiritual lottery! It is a lie! Jesus did not teach this lie; Satan did! Jesus did teach give and it shall be given unto you but it was not about swapping money for money. Jesus told the rich man to give up his money to the poor and follow Him. He was called to give up his money to get the better blessing of wisdom and salvation. He had to give up his stumbling block for Jesus. Jesus taught us about a heart of giving, as shown in the woman who gave little in contrast to the rich men in the temple who gave much (Mar 12:44). Bear in mind that Satan also gives gifts to his servants that obey him. While Jesus did receive the support of some that ministered to Him, His ministry was to deliver the poor from poverty, sickness and demonic power. Jesus was not a hireling demanding his pay. Jesus taught His disciples that their Father owned it all and that they were heirs of the Father’s wealth. What Jesus taught His disciples were: “(Mt 10:8) Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.” “(Lk 10:4) Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.” “(Lk 10:8) And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you…” We are given an example in the Old Testament of where the ministers became greedy of the offerings and took what they wanted by force.
Also before they burnt the fat, the priest's servant came, and said to the man that sacrificed, Give flesh to roast for the priest; for he will not have sodden flesh of thee, but raw. And if any man said unto him, Let them not fail to burn the fat presently, and then take as much as thy soul desireth; then he would answer him, Nay; but thou shalt give it me now: and if not, I will take it by force. (1 Sa 2:15-16)
These ministers who were called priests decided to contaminate the sacrificed offering and take by force the better portion of the offering from the people to satisfy their personal greed. These priests, knowingly, disregarded God’s commandment for how they were to receive their portion. The wickedness of the ministers was so hated that many people stopped bringing an offering and eventually abandoned the tabernacle. Even though some ministers today are much smoother in their delivery, the result is the same and God is no more pleased with it today than He was then.
While money is not evil, the love of it is. Prosperity preachers need to preach this message. Jesus told us to be a good steward over the resources He put in our hands but He warned against greed. Is there any wonder that many of those preachers on the national stage have no answers for today’s national dilemmas? Many of those that have sought prosperity have gained the wealth they desired but no longer believe they need Jesus in their lives or cannot grow further for fear of losing their wealth. Jesus rightly proclaimed, “…they have their reward.” There is a righteous way to acquire things and then there is a wrong way. While the church has been seduced to believe this prosperity lie and forsake God’s true way, many of those in their wealthy estate are looking for the joy and peace that Christ so freely provide His followers. Those that pursued wealth are looking for their joy in bottles of liquor or drugs. The church, unfortunately, is trying to be like them, not realizing they already have God’s best in the earth and better to come in eternity with Him. Will the church repent and turn back to God before it is too late?
Joyce Reba Payne
P.S. – In all the thirty years that I have been writing and speaking about the Lord, I was not led to tell about myself, because my ministry was not about me and my fleshy life could not minister to people. And though still reluctantly, I write only as led by the Spirit to be a witness to others that may need to understand more clearly the ways of God in order to follow by witness and example.
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Why America is in Confusion?
The nation of America had a good start and great opportunities to be the first nation to have a truly free people. The blueprint was fair and just for all people but Americans strayed from the blueprint. The blueprint established freedom, justice and equality for all citizens. The blueprint was based on the bible that America no longer wants to follow. The blueprint put forth the standards of Jesus Christ, who illustrated and set up a plan for us to share love with every person regardless of gender, race, culture or past mistakes. God, as Creator, upholds His own standard of love and truth and He cares for every individual made in His image.
The Europeans who came to America were from a people who fought religious wars, resisted aristocracy and religious authoritarianism and evolved into a people of liberty. These immigrants escaped European rule and won freedom to practice a new liberty where they followed the bible and their own conscious without the heavy hand of government or church. With this new freedom, they chose to put themselves under the rule of God and be guided by the values learned from scripture to provide equal opportunity and justice for all citizens.
After Christian evangelism hit Europe and persuaded its citizen of the cruelty of slavery and abolished it (1833); the colonists to America, nevertheless, used scriptures to justify enslavement and used the bible and African slaves to build the new society brick by brick. European Christian evangelists came to evangelize America against slavery but it took the Civil War (1865) to finally deliver Africans from American slavery. After abolition of slavery in 1863 by President Abraham Lincoln, American legislators and hate mongers found new ways to enslave blacks through laws, taxes, social practices, clan activity, miseducation, and religious deception. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 granted blacks’ freedom from discriminatory legal practices but the same racist practices still continue to the day enhanced by voter suppression and gerrymandering to diminish black empowerment. Various ethnic American citizens have suffered injustice by white Americans and have had their complaints settled by court suits or financial reparations while white America refuses to atone for their most egregious sin: cruelty and stolen labor from African slaves who built this nation.
White Americans, descendants of those delivered from European religious and governmental bondage, refuse to recognize their hypocritical reverse treatment toward black people captured and enslaved for profit. The nation that promised to give every citizen the right to pursue liberty and justice under an oath to God has lied to God and non-white citizens. Their Sunday ceremonial worship and praise cannot alleviate this error. The long journeys of European explorers and exploiters who traveled distant lands and did mental search of divinity have settled on the opinion of past researchers: that they are the supreme beings of the universe. White American citizens, legislators, judges and ministers still justify their discriminatory practices toward black American citizens and make no apology or effort to fulfill their covenant promise to the God that allowed them possession of this land. In the mist of religious, political, social and economic turmoil; American whites cannot figure out what is wrong. One news panelist trying to uphold old standards recently said in disappointment, “No one is coming to help us.” How sad! Someone already came and they crucified Him!
The nation of American was set up on Christian values and prayers but now refuses to conform to the requirements of the God of the bible or His revealed Son, Jesus Christ. Their Christian journey seems to have hit a snag and reverted back to the ways of their European forefathers, before they repented of slavery. This original sin has tainted the religious faith of white Christians. Many of these “Christians” have made a mockery of the word “Christian” in their practice of Christianity because Christianity is based on love of neighbor as one loves himself; and a practice of racial supremacy by white America reveals proof of hatred against neighbors who do not look like them. How can they represent Christ, who is love, and finish their Christian journey while hating those He died for? Has Christ given them an exception from the love clause? Their faith is found to be fraudulent and their covenant void. Their “god” who lords over hatred is trying to force the nation to serve him and those he has appointed as his leader, cabinet, and false ministers to carry out his plan of false leadership and religion, imitating Christ and His church. Christ taught much about the last day’s deception using a false church of which true believers should beware.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Mat 24:24
False Christs want us to believe that everything is okay with the church and we are all in line with the Lord but racial hatred and superiority rants expose this lie. Christ came and exposed a hypocritical church and false leaders. He pulled the cover off hypocrisy and exposed their evil in order to protect true believers.
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Joh 8:42-44
America, who fought a civil war over racial prejudice, is now fighting a spiritual war based on the lie of racial superiority and is willing to bow to the father of lies to prevail in power. White America needs to remember that it was a non-church attending 16th U.S. President during the Civil War who settled the debate but, nevertheless, surmised that maybe both sides claiming to be doing the will of God were in error. They must have been because the debate continues. Is God satisfied with the continuing debate? Americans must individually choose to stand for truth and reject the liar and his lies. Changing gods or denouncing the True God and His ways mean warfare and we are experiencing the turmoil of this change. Even the devil wants a peaceful entrance into power and he uses deception and subtlety until he is ready to reveal himself in authority. God prevents this evil unveiling while His people remain in the earth. The reason the public is confused about determining the right from wrong path is the interference of evil oversight. The evil one is a chameleon, changing to suit the occasion. God withdraws His hand when His guidance is refused and evil’s influence is strengthened. Compromise of truth leads us further and further into the way of error. Jesus has declared though that “I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it” (Mt. 16:18) so the real church will hold the line by the power of the Holy Ghost until Jesus says it is enough. The masquerading of evil as light must not deceive the church. Every individual has free will to choose what god to serve, but the True God will judge every decision at His throne. The best thing the nation can do is to choose wisely by rejecting the god of confusion while upholding truth by serving the True God of Creation, Jehovah God.
For more discussion on this subject, read my book: Christianity and Ethnicity: Is Christ Concerned About Race? ISBN: 9781387188253; (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/christianity-and-ethnicity-joyce-reba-payne/1127151207
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April 15, 2018
God Will Judge with Equity
To the chief Musician, Altaschith, A Psalm or Song of Asaph.
Unto thee, O God, do we give thanks, unto thee do we give thanks: for that thy name is near thy wondrous works declare. When I shall receive the congregation I will judge uprightly. The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it. Selah. I said unto the fools, Deal not foolishly: and to the wicked, Lift not up the horn: Lift not up your horn on high: speak not with a stiff neck. For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south. But God is the judge: he putteth down one, and setteth up another. For in the hand of the LORD there is a cup, and the wine is red; it is full of mixture; and he poureth out of the same: but the dregs thereof, all the wicked of the earth shall wring them out, and drink them. But I will declare for ever; I will sing praises to the God of Jacob. All the horns of the wicked also will I cut off; but the horns of the righteous shall be exalted. Psa 75:1-10
When we have been emptied of all self-glory, when the enemy has heralded his best at us and when the potter’s wheel stops spinning; then we are ready for God’s use. Joseph was loved of his father and yet he found himself rejected, betrayed, abandoned and imprisoned. For all the good he tried to do, he found evil coming time and time again. Why would God subject His beloved to such torture when Joseph only sought to please his father? Job asked: What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips. Job 2:10
Man’s mind is finite and we do not have the ability to understand the infinite wisdom of God. While we look at the present and what we desire, God looks over the course of our lives to see the good and evil, strengths and weaknesses. He puts in His servants those things that will be needed for all situations, whether good or evil. God was building in Joseph strength and character that he did not have in his father’s house. Joseph’s natural father taught him love and acceptance as a son but his Heavenly Father built in him the ability to take rejection and stand strong as a leader. If Joseph had not gone through the period of rejection, he would not have learned that God was with him in all situations, working through the good and the evil.
It is hard to walk alone and it can seem very lonely at times. But God’s servants are never alone; they are always in His presence and before His eyes. Their cries are heard and their requests are answered not because of privilege but because they are emissaries for the Lord. Neither the mission nor the possessions are theirs, everything, including them, belong to the Lord. Their very lives have been purchased with the blood of Christ. Though Christ declares us free (released from bondage to Satan); yet we are entirely owned by the Lord, not as slaves but as willing servants. The Old Testament reveals a statute where the slave could be set free and yet choose to stay with the master of his own free will. God is a good master and His fields are always fruitful.
Having been put down by the world and having no further use to it, I am happy to know that I have yet value to the Lord. Where man has said we have no use of you and given demotion. God has said: “Now I can use you.” I feel like speaking like Paul: “I think myself happy… because I shall answer for myself … Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day…" Act 26:2, 26:22. To all those that tried to beat us down, they have, nevertheless, witnessed the power of God to preserve His servants. Pharaoh was an evil ruler and the people had to endure and wait until God had proven to that wicked Pharaoh who was the Real God. The people of God will suffer long and hard sometimes while God is making them and showing His power to those who oppose them. We cannot understand the infinite wisdom of God.
I also think myself happy and yet unworthy to be used of God. And when we would say that I cannot be this and do thus and so, God compels us to obey. While I have sought no office or calling of God, I am compelled to answer His call for what He has called me to for there is no place of obedience or use outside the will of God. Promotion from the prophetic office to the apostolic office represents words or titles that many are using now days. Titles are useless if there is not power to fulfill the calling. Moses told God: “If thy presence go not with me, carry us not up hence (Ex 33:15).” The greatness of Moses was nothing without the power of God backing him up. It is a fearful thing to assume a place in God that He has not authorized and yet many do it. I have hesitated to move forward; even after being authorized by God during the past several years to assume the title and work, because of seeing so many wrongly use their office. However, God has a way of putting us in a box until we do it His way. The title goes with the work and the work must be done.
A major difference between the prophetic office and that of the apostolic is that the prophet proclaims what God says and the apostle establishes or sets up what God ordains. If the prophet speaks, then someone should be there to receive the message and accomplish the work. But if no one hears the message and responds, then the messenger is speaking in vain, but God will judge those that did not obey. The apostle both hears and performs God’s will. There are people today who profess to be apostles who also say they need the voice of the prophetic. That is false. Paul did not need to hear a prophetic voice to do the will of God. Paul knew God for himself and went about doing what God said do. A prophet did, however, prophesy a confirmation to Paul of what Paul already knew. God is seeking a performance of His will and a dysfunctional church cannot accomplish the will of God if they are fragmented and unable to discern His will.
God invested a lot of time teaching and instructing me in His will through many places and people, pointing out the good and the evil. Much warning was instilled in me as I saw the wicked misuse God’s name and power for their personal advantage. I saw the hurt of people as leaders abused their authority. I both felt and saw the anger of the Lord over misuse of His authority. If people really knew God, they would not play with the things of God. God is so merciful and long suffering even to those who abuse His power. All of that said, perhaps it is easier to understand the reluctance I have felt in using religious titles. The only confidence one can have in the assignment of their work is the assurance of God in saying: “I will be with you.” The power is God’s, the work is God’s and the people are God’s. There is no place for one to glory. When we look at the wretch that we were, the work God has done in us and the things God has brought us through; how can we be anything but thankful for His mercy and grace. Praise God for His goodness! All the honor and glory belongs to God.
Have your ever heard the expression: “It’s a gray area”? It means that something is difficult to define within a category or rule. That may indeed be the case when referring to colors neither purely blue nor green; neither black nor white, etc. But when it comes to truth, there is no gray area. One plus one still equals two, not 2.25 or 2.5, just two. Some things are universally accepted truth, an exact science. A matter is either true or not. If it is not true, then it is false. Some things have no gray area. If you are connecting a car battery, it makes a difference whether the post is positive or negative.
Things used to be simpler, more direct or specific. But today we have what are called gray areas: a person may not want to be considered male or female. In simpler days, this was not a gray area; either you were or were not. Ethical codes have changed too. In this new culture, some things are said to be neither right nor wrong; they are either politically right or politically wrong. It is a cultural expression; but does it change the true essence of right and wrong?
In America, we have gone from political correctness to political corruption. Political correctness put us on a sliding scale that slid progressively into what was obviously wrong without consequence or complaint. The conscience had become silenced to speaking out about things that were controversial and put into a numbness that fell into a deep sleep about speaking up at all. People that once practiced doing right were told they were wrong or inconsequential so they stopped speaking up. That, of course, made more room to fill up the void with what was actually wrong until it became the norm or status quo.
In American politics, the two political parties of democrats and republicans, liberals or conservatives, the left or right, were based on the political view of issues. The Republican Party, party of Lincoln, the “Right,” the party that sided against slavery in the south during the Civil War to set blacks free; had always been seen as the “moral” party or religious right. However, the Republican Party of today fights against the rights of blacks, immigrants and the poor; positions that oppose biblical guidelines. The Democrats now have a more supportive position for blacks, immigrants and the poor. The political party positions are still evolving and it can be difficult to decide which party to support. Children born within the last several decades cannot depend on parents, church or the law to be the final authority on right or wrong because core values have changed substantially.
We have arrived at an alternate reality where what used to be wrong is now right and what was right is now wrong. There is no longer a general standard for judging anyone anymore because the foundation of our laws was founded on the moral value system derived from the Ten Commandments and Christian faith. With the rejection of the Ten Commandments and the bible as guides, there is no way to measure wrong or right; and anything and everything is rated by public opinion.
We live in an alternate reality now where things are spewed in the wrong direction and there is no way to turn it around based on its present trajectory. The bible tells of a time when every man did what was right in his own eyes (Jdg 17:6). “Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts (Pro 21:2). Fortunately there are still some people around who are old enough to remember when things were normal and are bold enough to speak out. Those of us left from prior generations know the results of the present course because we have seen it before. Some of us are old enough to remember or have heard about the Stalin and Hitlers of former generations that were determined to have things their way. We know they got started by silencing the objections of those that knew better. We saw that regardless of how determined and powerful they were in their day, they were overthrown by a greater force than they. They failed to figure in that there is a “Right” that never changes and that will always overthrow the wrong in the end.
Many of today’s strong voices are discounting the power of a Righteous God, Who is still in control. Like some old folks who stand back in silence and watch for the change because they have seen it before; there is a God that watches and waits for His time to speak. He waits to see if anyone will stand up against wrong before He intervenes. Time is witness that He will eventually speak to all those that defy Him and their names too will be recorded in history books along with the Stalins and Hitlers of the past who fell to the righteous power of God. The “all-powerful” Pharaoh of Egypt, who declared that he was a god, had to bow his knee to the True God of heaven, who brought down Pharaoh’s kingdom.
In times of moral quietness, when people are afraid to speak up for what is right; there is a boldness that comes to the wicked that causes them to believe they can do anything and get away with it. There is little resistance to their assumption of power. They project evil and command others to follow. The land seems overtaken by the wicked with little hope of help. The people mourn and feel hopeless. It seems as if the wicked will prevail and overthrow every ounce of good. But there is a word that God has sown in the earth.
When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever: Psa 92:7
There is another word that God speaks to those that mourn at the wickedness in the earth while they wait on Him.
Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity. For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb. Psa 37:1-2
For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. Psa 37:9
When it seems wickedness has taken over; it is just a sign of God allowing the wicked time to seal its own fate. Even wicked men are given time to see themselves and repent. God is merciful even to the Sauls (Paul) of the earth who may not realize how wicked they are. Sometimes people cannot determine if a person is good or evil because good and evil deeds are intertwined. Some people may have thought Hitler had pure motives at first but his wickedness eventually blossomed almost too late to save onlookers.
God never changes His concept of right and wrong. When we choose to learn His ways and walk in truth, we will not be confused by the masquerade of wickedness. There is a discerning of good and evil that God gives to His children and they are taught to examine the fruit of a tree to judge what type tree it is from.
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. Mat 7:17
People today seeing evil fruit are calling the tree good. They are foolish and do not know the word of God. We do not have to be deceived at this hour because the Word of God teaches us to discern good from evil and right from wrong. The foolish may fall into deception but the wise will know the truth.
And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. Dan 11:32
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THE SALVATION MESSAGE
How Do I Get Saved?
Accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior is the only way to salvation.
I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. Is 43:11
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12
He then brought them out and asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household." Acts 16:30
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. I Timothy 2:5
Acknowledge you are a sinner
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. Rom 3:23
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Romans 3:11-13
Repent of your sins
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out. Acts 3:19
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9
Come to God through Jesus, Accepting Jesus as Your Savior
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Romans 10:9-10
Water Baptism and Receive the Holy Spirit
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Live a sanctified life in fellowship with the Lord and your Christian family
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. Acts 2:41-42
Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord. Heb 12:14
NOW, If you believe in Jesus
In a true heart of repentance pray a prayer similar to this model prayer:
I thank you for sending Jesus to die on the cross in my place for the sins I committed. I now repent of all my sins and ask for your forgiveness. I ask Jesus to come into my heart and live forever as Savior of my life. Fill me now with your Holy Spirit so I may live a life pleasing to you. In Jesus’ name I pray, Amen.
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Know that you already have the victory over the enemy of your soul. You just need to believe it and exercise your rights to liberty. The enemy of your soul will continuously look for opportunities to over come your faith, so you must be fully persuaded and steadfast. Read, commit to memory and meditate on scriptures like those below until your faith is built up and then pray to the Father acknowledging your liberty and victory through Jesus Christ.
Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins. Colossians 1:12-14
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. James 4: 7-10
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Luke 10:19
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? 1 John 5:4-5
Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. 2 Corinthians 2:14
Now praise Him for your victory!
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