You must be born again. Joh 3:7
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Jo 3:5
Here are some quick references to help understand the five-fold ministry of Jesus Christ. The titles and positions vary from church to church so the references given are for your personal study.
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. Ephesian 4:11-13
Apostle - A special messenger sent forth from God to be a special witness of the name of Jesus Christ in all the world, particularly of His divinity and of His bodily resurrection from the dead. One possessing the anointing of Jesus Christ to exercise spiritual gifts and authority to establish the foundation of the church in the earth. Scripture References: I Cor 9:1-5; Acts 1:21-22; Rom 1:5; Gal 2:8; Mk 10:2; Lk 6:13; II Cor 12:12 - Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.
Luke 6:13 - And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles.
Prophet - Minister who speaks divinely inspired revelations, foretells future events, who speaks for God by divine inspiration to restore back to order the lives of God’s people. Scripture References: Deu 18:18; Jer. 1:10; Amos 3:7-8; Jo 4:19; Lk 11:49, Mk 6:4
Deu 18:18 - I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Evangelist - Minister who goes out into the highways and hedges to compel them to come in, preaches the gospel of Jesus Christ to convert to Christianity. Scripture References: II Tim 4:2-5; Acts 21:8; III Joh 5-8
II Tim 4:2-5 - Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
Pastor and Teacher - Minister of Jesus Christ with direct senior oversight of the local congregation to provide spiritual instruction and care for believers in the church of Jesus Christ. Scripture References: Jer. 3:15; Jer 23:2, 4; Ps. 23:2, Matt 10:1; Jo 10:1, 16
Jeremiah 3:15 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.
While the office of apostle may walk in any of these gifts temporarily from time to time, these are individual offices held by several individual ministers empowered with an office or gifting by Christ. When these individual ministers and gifts come together in agreement,. they authenticate the Spirit of Christ (Mt 18:16-20; I Cor 12:12-31).
1Co 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
Christ walked in all these giftings simultaneously and served as prophet, priest and king, fulfilling the Godhead bodily (Col 2:9). When the members of the body of Christ possessing all these offices and gifts come together in the House of God, we enjoy the fullness of Christ (Eph. 1:23).
God loves everyone regardless of physical or spiritual conditions. We are all called to become a part of the body of Christ and the body of Christ is one family. We must accept Jesus Christ and His sacrifice on the cross to become part of this great family of God; and when we do, we must respond to His great love for us. Each of us is called and destined with purpose to do something. This ministry is about the call of God on my life to reveal to others what He has shown me. The expression of this call has been both verbal and written as I have spoken and written what I have heard God speak to my heart out of His word and from the Spirit. The call upon my life is a prophetic one that some may not find agreement with due to their religious teachings or church doctrine but I challenge you to read the word for yourself (Deuteronomy 18:15/Joel 2:28/Ephesian 4:11-12/I Cor 14:5) and see that God is still the same yesterday, today and forever.
Though God has always preferred to speak to us one on one, there are times when the message must come through a servant called for that purpose because of the dullness of the people's ears. Prophets are a gift to the people that will hear them because they have been schooled under the Spirit of God to speak what God sends. And this, as all messages received from God's messengers, must agree with the written Word of God to be validated as truth from God.
Any message from God has the ultimate purpose of leading the people closer to Himself. As people realize how faithful and good God is, they are drawn to His great love for them. God's message to us is that He loves us and wants to bless us with more of Himself. But when the people fall away from God, He uses this gift to speak to the people and remind them of God's great love for them and that He invites them back to His bosom. It is God, Himself, that will validate His true servant and expose the false ones at the appropriate time. So I do not take lightly the call of God on my life nor am I so presumptive as to speak my own words for God. My respect and my godly fear provides a boundary where I am happy to stay within while I seek to obey God.
The Remnant of Israel
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. Rom 11:1-5 (KJV)
The Spirit of God has spent countless numbers of hours, days and years talking to me about this generation as I described in my testimony of August 2013 on this site. We have arrived at the time that He told me about when people would forsake the truth and not want to hear the Word of God. But there is yet a people that want to know the truth, are still seeking Him and those that want to go higher in the Lord. To those people I want to share with you what God told me to tell you, not for want or need of doing so personally, but out of obedience to He who has saved and kept me.
These are difficult days as God said they would be and few can decipher what is truth from what is a lie. Going through the fire is difficult but when you have come through you know the difference. God is my life, my very next breath and without Him I cannot exist. He made me for His purpose and has set me to do His will "today." If you would like to hear what God has sent for this generation, you can contact me through the contact section on this site, at email@example.com or by mail at P.O. Box 3325, Durham, NC 27702.
I would not give anything for what God has done in my life and though not yet perfect, I rest comfortably in His arms of grace and mercy. I have found great joy in His service! May God bless and strengthen you until Jesus comes.
Joyce Reba Payne
Though the number...of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved. Is 9:27
Promotion Comes From the Lord
April 15, 2018
God Will Judge with Equity
To the chief Musician, Altaschith, A Psalm or Song of Asaph.
Unto thee, O God, do we give thanks, unto thee do we give thanks: for that thy name is near thy wondrous works declare. When I shall receive the congregation I will judge uprightly. The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it. Selah. I said unto the fools, Deal not foolishly: and to the wicked, Lift not up the horn: Lift not up your horn on high: speak not with a stiff neck. For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south. But God is the judge: he putteth down one, and setteth up another. For in the hand of the LORD there is a cup, and the wine is red; it is full of mixture; and he poureth out of the same: but the dregs thereof, all the wicked of the earth shall wring them out, and drink them. But I will declare for ever; I will sing praises to the God of Jacob. All the horns of the wicked also will I cut off; but the horns of the righteous shall be exalted. Psa 75:1-10
When we have been emptied of all self-glory, when the enemy has heralded his best at us and when the potter’s wheel stops spinning; then we are ready for God’s use. Joseph was loved of his father and yet he found himself rejected, betrayed, abandoned and imprisoned. For all the good he tried to do, he found evil coming time and time again. Why would God subject His beloved to such torture when Joseph only sought to please his father? Job asked: What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips. Job 2:10
Man’s mind is finite and we do not have the ability to understand the infinite wisdom of God. While we look at the present and what we desire, God looks over the course of our lives to see the good and evil, strengths and weaknesses. He puts in His servants those things that will be needed for all situations, whether good or evil. God was building in Joseph strength and character that he did not have in his father’s house. Joseph’s natural father taught him love and acceptance as a son but his Heavenly Father built in him the ability to take rejection and stand strong as a leader. If Joseph had not gone through the period of rejection, he would not have learned that God was with him in all situations, working through the good and the evil.
It is hard to walk alone and it can seem very lonely at times. But God’s servants are never alone; they are always in His presence and before His eyes. Their cries are heard and their requests are answered not because of privilege but because they are emissaries for the Lord. Neither the mission nor the possessions are theirs, everything, including them, belong to the Lord. Their very lives have been purchased with the blood of Christ. Though Christ declares us free (released from bondage to Satan); yet we are entirely owned by the Lord, not as slaves but as willing servants. The Old Testament reveals a statute where the slave could be set free and yet choose to stay with the master of his own free will. God is a good master and His fields are always fruitful.
Having been put down by the world and having no further use to it, I am happy to know that I have yet value to the Lord. Where man has said we have no use of you and given demotion. God has said: “Now I can use you.” I feel like speaking like Paul: “I think myself happy… because I shall answer for myself … Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day…" Act 26:2, 26:22. To all those that tried to beat us down, they have, nevertheless, witnessed the power of God to preserve His servants. Pharaoh was an evil ruler and the people had to endure and wait until God had proven to that wicked Pharaoh who was the Real God. The people of God will suffer long and hard sometimes while God is making them and showing His power to those who oppose them. We cannot understand the infinite wisdom of God.
I also think myself happy and yet unworthy to be used of God. And when we would say that I cannot be this and do thus and so, God compels us to obey. While I have sought no office or calling of God, I am compelled to answer His call for what He has called me to for there is no place of obedience or use outside the will of God. Promotion from the prophetic office to the apostolic office represents words or titles that many are using now days. Titles are useless if there is not power to fulfill the calling. Moses told God: “If thy presence go not with me, carry us not up hence (Ex 33:15).” The greatness of Moses was nothing without the power of God backing him up. It is a fearful thing to assume a place in God that He has not authorized and yet many do it. I have hesitated to move forward; even after being authorized by God during the past several years to assume the title and work, because of seeing so many wrongly use their office. However, God has a way of putting us in a box until we do it His way. The title goes with the work and the work must be done.
A major difference between the prophetic office and that of the apostolic is that the prophet proclaims what God says and the apostle establishes or sets up what God ordains. If the prophet speaks, then someone should be there to receive the message and accomplish the work. But if no one hears the message and responds, then the messenger is speaking in vain, but God will judge those that did not obey. The apostle both hears and performs God’s will. There are people today who profess to be apostles who also say they need the voice of the prophetic. That is false. Paul did not need to hear a prophetic voice to do the will of God. Paul knew God for himself and went about doing what God said do. A prophet did, however, prophesy a confirmation to Paul of what Paul already knew. God is seeking a performance of His will and a dysfunctional church cannot accomplish the will of God if they are fragmented and unable to discern His will.
God invested a lot of time teaching and instructing me in His will through many places and people, pointing out the good and the evil. Much warning was instilled in me as I saw the wicked misuse God’s name and power for their personal advantage. I saw the hurt of people as leaders abused their authority. I both felt and saw the anger of the Lord over misuse of His authority. If people really knew God, they would not play with the things of God. God is so merciful and long suffering even to those who abuse His power. All of that said, perhaps it is easier to understand the reluctance I have felt in using religious titles. The only confidence one can have in the assignment of their work is the assurance of God in saying: “I will be with you.” The power is God’s, the work is God’s and the people are God’s. There is no place for one to glory. When we look at the wretch that we were, the work God has done in us and the things God has brought us through; how can we be anything but thankful for His mercy and grace. Praise God for His goodness! All the honor and glory belongs to God.
Have your ever heard the expression: “It’s a gray area”? It means that something is difficult to define within a category or rule. That may indeed be the case when referring to colors neither purely blue nor green; neither black nor white, etc. But when it comes to truth, there is no gray area. One plus one still equals two, not 2.25 or 2.5, just two. Some things are universally accepted truth, an exact science. A matter is either true or not. If it is not true, then it is false. Some things have no gray area. If you are connecting a car battery, it makes a difference whether the post is positive or negative.
Things used to be simpler, more direct or specific. But today we have what are called gray areas: a person may not want to be considered male or female. In simpler days, this was not a gray area; either you were or were not. Ethical codes have changed too. In this new culture, some things are said to be neither right nor wrong; they are either politically right or politically wrong. It is a cultural expression; but does it change the true essence of right and wrong?
In America, we have gone from political correctness to political corruption. Political correctness put us on a sliding scale that slid progressively into what was obviously wrong without consequence or complaint. The conscience had become silenced to speaking out about things that were controversial and put into a numbness that fell into a deep sleep about speaking up at all. People that once practiced doing right were told they were wrong or inconsequential so they stopped speaking up. That, of course, made more room to fill up the void with what was actually wrong until it became the norm or status quo.
In American politics, the two political parties of democrats and republicans, liberals or conservatives, the left or right, were based on the political view of issues. The Republican Party, party of Lincoln, the “Right,” the party that sided against slavery in the south during the Civil War to set blacks free; had always been seen as the “moral” party or religious right. However, the Republican Party of today fights against the rights of blacks, immigrants and the poor; positions that oppose biblical guidelines. The Democrats now have a more supportive position for blacks, immigrants and the poor. The political party positions are still evolving and it can be difficult to decide which party to support. Children born within the last several decades cannot depend on parents, church or the law to be the final authority on right or wrong because core values have changed substantially.
We have arrived at an alternate reality where what used to be wrong is now right and what was right is now wrong. There is no longer a general standard for judging anyone anymore because the foundation of our laws was founded on the moral value system derived from the Ten Commandments and Christian faith. With the rejection of the Ten Commandments and the bible as guides, there is no way to measure wrong or right; and anything and everything is rated by public opinion.
We live in an alternate reality now where things are spewed in the wrong direction and there is no way to turn it around based on its present trajectory. The bible tells of a time when every man did what was right in his own eyes (Jdg 17:6). “Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts (Pro 21:2). Fortunately there are still some people around who are old enough to remember when things were normal and are bold enough to speak out. Those of us left from prior generations know the results of the present course because we have seen it before. Some of us are old enough to remember or have heard about the Stalin and Hitlers of former generations that were determined to have things their way. We know they got started by silencing the objections of those that knew better. We saw that regardless of how determined and powerful they were in their day, they were overthrown by a greater force than they. They failed to figure in that there is a “Right” that never changes and that will always overthrow the wrong in the end.
Many of today’s strong voices are discounting the power of a Righteous God, Who is still in control. Like some old folks who stand back in silence and watch for the change because they have seen it before; there is a God that watches and waits for His time to speak. He waits to see if anyone will stand up against wrong before He intervenes. Time is witness that He will eventually speak to all those that defy Him and their names too will be recorded in history books along with the Stalins and Hitlers of the past who fell to the righteous power of God. The “all-powerful” Pharaoh of Egypt, who declared that he was a god, had to bow his knee to the True God of heaven, who brought down Pharaoh’s kingdom.
In times of moral quietness, when people are afraid to speak up for what is right; there is a boldness that comes to the wicked that causes them to believe they can do anything and get away with it. There is little resistance to their assumption of power. They project evil and command others to follow. The land seems overtaken by the wicked with little hope of help. The people mourn and feel hopeless. It seems as if the wicked will prevail and overthrow every ounce of good. But there is a word that God has sown in the earth.
When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever: Psa 92:7
There is another word that God speaks to those that mourn at the wickedness in the earth while they wait on Him.
Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity. For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb. Psa 37:1-2
For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. Psa 37:9
When it seems wickedness has taken over; it is just a sign of God allowing the wicked time to seal its own fate. Even wicked men are given time to see themselves and repent. God is merciful even to the Sauls (Paul) of the earth who may not realize how wicked they are. Sometimes people cannot determine if a person is good or evil because good and evil deeds are intertwined. Some people may have thought Hitler had pure motives at first but his wickedness eventually blossomed almost too late to save onlookers.
God never changes His concept of right and wrong. When we choose to learn His ways and walk in truth, we will not be confused by the masquerade of wickedness. There is a discerning of good and evil that God gives to His children and they are taught to examine the fruit of a tree to judge what type tree it is from.
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. Mat 7:17
People today seeing evil fruit are calling the tree good. They are foolish and do not know the word of God. We do not have to be deceived at this hour because the Word of God teaches us to discern good from evil and right from wrong. The foolish may fall into deception but the wise will know the truth.
And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. Dan 11:32
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Joyce Payne, Prophetess, Christian author of several books, Host of "From A Christian Perspective" that airs every Friday Morning at 9:30am on The Batchelor Pad Radio Network, joins us to discuss is it to be Preaching For Dollars while maintaining the Christian Doctrine and Principles?
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Tape 6 - Teaching - Christ is the Head
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Tape 2 - Teaching - Weinstein Synrome
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Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
Baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you:
And, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.
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THE SALVATION MESSAGE
How Do I Get Saved?
Accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior is the only way to salvation.
I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. Is 43:11
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12
He then brought them out and asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household." Acts 16:30
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. I Timothy 2:5
Acknowledge you are a sinner
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. Rom 3:23
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Romans 3:11-13
Repent of your sins
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out. Acts 3:19
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9
Come to God through Jesus, Accepting Jesus as Your Savior
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Romans 10:9-10
Water Baptism and Receive the Holy Spirit
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Live a sanctified life in fellowship with the Lord and your Christian family
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. Acts 2:41-42
Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord. Heb 12:14
NOW, If you believe in Jesus
In a true heart of repentance pray a prayer similar to this model prayer:
I thank you for sending Jesus to die on the cross in my place for the sins I committed. I now repent of all my sins and ask for your forgiveness. I ask Jesus to come into my heart and live forever as Savior of my life. Fill me now with your Holy Spirit so I may live a life pleasing to you. In Jesus’ name I pray, Amen.
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Know that you already have the victory over the enemy of your soul. You just need to believe it and exercise your rights to liberty. The enemy of your soul will continuously look for opportunities to over come your faith, so you must be fully persuaded and steadfast. Read, commit to memory and meditate on scriptures like those below until your faith is built up and then pray to the Father acknowledging your liberty and victory through Jesus Christ.
Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins. Colossians 1:12-14
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. James 4: 7-10
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Luke 10:19
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? 1 John 5:4-5
Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. 2 Corinthians 2:14
Now praise Him for your victory!
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